Rosemarie Trockel at Gladstone Gallery (Chelsea) and Sprüth Magers (Upper East Side). Discussion participants: Garth Evans, Jock Ireland, and Michael Brenson--with guest Sam Lasko. Images and editing by Nicole Oliveira. Recorded August 2025 by Jock Ireland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGPi4zYV2aM